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	<title>Comments on: Waging War For Money: Just Like Ike Said It Would Be!</title>
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		<title>By: Glen Alan Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Alan Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I confess that it appears that I was giving more weight to an aspect of what Eisenhower said, than was intended.  After all:  the speech was a warning against the military-industrial complex.  I was seeing his &quot;God help. . .&quot; remark not in the light of this but rather in the light of his overall military experience and how it informed his presidential role as Commander in Chief.

I apologize for my over-emphasis (or misinterpretation).

However, continuing on that line, in reflecting on Eisenhower&#039;s military experience as compared to that of other Presidents (both since -- in my lifetime -- and previous), a rather remarkable conclusion came to me.  As a military leader during WW II, he held more military authority and power than any other man who then went on to be elected President!  Certainly as the supreme commander of the Allied forces in the European theater of that war, his command was not over US forces alone but those of other nations.  And yet he never abused such remarkable military authority.  Not to mention that he went on to warn about the military-industrial complex.

And in my opinion Ike was a very decent President!   Nothing very remarkable or of historic import occurred during his eight years.   And definitely no scandals or crises -- nothing like Iran-Contra, Lewinski, or Watergate!  He just quietly went about being the nation&#039;s leader, following a career as a citizen-soldier.  Much in the manner of our first Chief Executive.   What do you think?

Oh, and thanks for pointing out that neither FDR  nor Wilson served in the military and yet led us thru the great military trials of WW II and WW I respectively.  You have a great point there!

(But I had concisered that Clinton DID serve, at least in the Guard?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I confess that it appears that I was giving more weight to an aspect of what Eisenhower said, than was intended.  After all:  the speech was a warning against the military-industrial complex.  I was seeing his &#8220;God help. . .&#8221; remark not in the light of this but rather in the light of his overall military experience and how it informed his presidential role as Commander in Chief.</p>
<p>I apologize for my over-emphasis (or misinterpretation).</p>
<p>However, continuing on that line, in reflecting on Eisenhower&#8217;s military experience as compared to that of other Presidents (both since &#8212; in my lifetime &#8212; and previous), a rather remarkable conclusion came to me.  As a military leader during WW II, he held more military authority and power than any other man who then went on to be elected President!  Certainly as the supreme commander of the Allied forces in the European theater of that war, his command was not over US forces alone but those of other nations.  And yet he never abused such remarkable military authority.  Not to mention that he went on to warn about the military-industrial complex.</p>
<p>And in my opinion Ike was a very decent President!   Nothing very remarkable or of historic import occurred during his eight years.   And definitely no scandals or crises &#8212; nothing like Iran-Contra, Lewinski, or Watergate!  He just quietly went about being the nation&#8217;s leader, following a career as a citizen-soldier.  Much in the manner of our first Chief Executive.   What do you think?</p>
<p>Oh, and thanks for pointing out that neither FDR  nor Wilson served in the military and yet led us thru the great military trials of WW II and WW I respectively.  You have a great point there!</p>
<p>(But I had concisered that Clinton DID serve, at least in the Guard?)</p>
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		<title>By: Prentice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prentice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glen, you have misinterpreted Eisenhower&#039;s remarks in the video. Ike was not concerned with the ability of a president who did not serve in the military to act as an effective Commander in Chief. Franklin Roosevelt, who had been Ike&#039;s Commander In Chief throughout World War II, was clearly capable of effectively commanding our military.

Eisenhower was simply commenting that he, as a general who was knowledgeable and experienced in both warfare and military procurement was uniquely qualified to put into perspective the proposals and demands of the military industrial complex and its powerful army of lobbyists. A man with simple military service would have no greater experience or better judgment in such matters than would a man who did not serve at all. 

Now, as to your fears for President Obama, they would seem unfounded. The two presidents who served as Commander in Chief during the greatest conflicts in our history were without any military experience of their own. Roosevelt and Wilson filled their roles quite successfully during World War I and World War II, wouldn&#039;t you say?

As a Commander in Chief without personal military service, Obama is in good company. Here is a list of presidents who never served in the military: Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Franklin Roosevelt, Herbert Hoover, Calvin Coolidge, Warren Harding, Woodrow Wilson, William Taft, Grover Cleveland, Martin Van Buren, John Q. Adams and John Adams. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glen, you have misinterpreted Eisenhower&#8217;s remarks in the video. Ike was not concerned with the ability of a president who did not serve in the military to act as an effective Commander in Chief. Franklin Roosevelt, who had been Ike&#8217;s Commander In Chief throughout World War II, was clearly capable of effectively commanding our military.</p>
<p>Eisenhower was simply commenting that he, as a general who was knowledgeable and experienced in both warfare and military procurement was uniquely qualified to put into perspective the proposals and demands of the military industrial complex and its powerful army of lobbyists. A man with simple military service would have no greater experience or better judgment in such matters than would a man who did not serve at all. </p>
<p>Now, as to your fears for President Obama, they would seem unfounded. The two presidents who served as Commander in Chief during the greatest conflicts in our history were without any military experience of their own. Roosevelt and Wilson filled their roles quite successfully during World War I and World War II, wouldn&#8217;t you say?</p>
<p>As a Commander in Chief without personal military service, Obama is in good company. Here is a list of presidents who never served in the military: Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Franklin Roosevelt, Herbert Hoover, Calvin Coolidge, Warren Harding, Woodrow Wilson, William Taft, Grover Cleveland, Martin Van Buren, John Q. Adams and John Adams.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Alan Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Alan Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My concern is exactly what Ike said.  Osama, not having served in the military, has little understanding of what means to live in the military (with or without dependents), what it means to receive and obey military orders, what it means to give military orders, expecting obedience, nor even general military strategy.  (Now granted, some of our recent ex-Presidents were sort of clueless on military strategy despite military service.)

It&#039;s not impossible for a non-military-experienced man like Osama to be Commander in Chief and conduct the military affairs of these United States, but it&#039;s certainly a lot more difficult.

I wish the man well, and I pray that he listen to his military advisors, particularly Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.   Which, BTW, that was a good decision on his part to retain the sitting Secretary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My concern is exactly what Ike said.  Osama, not having served in the military, has little understanding of what means to live in the military (with or without dependents), what it means to receive and obey military orders, what it means to give military orders, expecting obedience, nor even general military strategy.  (Now granted, some of our recent ex-Presidents were sort of clueless on military strategy despite military service.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not impossible for a non-military-experienced man like Osama to be Commander in Chief and conduct the military affairs of these United States, but it&#8217;s certainly a lot more difficult.</p>
<p>I wish the man well, and I pray that he listen to his military advisors, particularly Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.   Which, BTW, that was a good decision on his part to retain the sitting Secretary.</p>
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		<title>By: Prentice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prentice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glen... you&#039;re serious, right? After having read the article and watched the video clip your concern is that President Obama &quot;did not do military service?&quot; You&#039;re concern from Obama&#039;s lack of military service is, exactly, what? That he will be hoodwinked by the military contractors into buying more missiles than we need? Too few? With what, precisely, is it that you think God needs to especially help us in light of Obama&#039;s lack of military service?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glen&#8230; you&#8217;re serious, right? After having read the article and watched the video clip your concern is that President Obama &#8220;did not do military service?&#8221; You&#8217;re concern from Obama&#8217;s lack of military service is, exactly, what? That he will be hoodwinked by the military contractors into buying more missiles than we need? Too few? With what, precisely, is it that you think God needs to especially help us in light of Obama&#8217;s lack of military service?</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Alan Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Alan Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The video clip of Pres. Eisenhower is very sobering.  He was an Army General, for gosh sakes!  He knew of what he spoke, when he warned about the military-industrial complex.  But these Untied states didn&#039;t listen, then or now.

So Ike made the comment that God help the USA when somebody sit at the presidential desk that didn&#039;t know as much as did he about the military!  Chills go up and down my flesh as I hear this, because for the first time in my lifetime (I was born while Ike was Pres.) we have a President who did not do military service.  God help us indeed!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The video clip of Pres. Eisenhower is very sobering.  He was an Army General, for gosh sakes!  He knew of what he spoke, when he warned about the military-industrial complex.  But these Untied states didn&#8217;t listen, then or now.</p>
<p>So Ike made the comment that God help the USA when somebody sit at the presidential desk that didn&#8217;t know as much as did he about the military!  Chills go up and down my flesh as I hear this, because for the first time in my lifetime (I was born while Ike was Pres.) we have a President who did not do military service.  God help us indeed!!!</p>
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